Showing posts with label legal. Show all posts
Showing posts with label legal. Show all posts
Wednesday, February 19, 2014
Same Parents, Second Faith Healing Death
Photo: Herbert and Catherine Schiable
The entire (very short) article, by MaryClaire Dale, reporting for the Associated Press, at this website:
A Pennsylvania couple who believe in faith-healing face 20 years or more in prison in the death of a second child who died without seeing a doctor.
Herbert and Catherine Schaible are being sentenced Wednesday in the death last year of their 8-month-old son, Brandon. At the time, they were under court orders to seek medical care for their children after their 2-year-old son, Kent, died of untreated pneumonia in 2009.
The Schaibles are third-generation members of a small Pentecostal community, the First Century Gospel Church in northeast Philadelphia.
A lawyer for Catherine Schaible, 44, plans to explore their religious beliefs at the sentencing. Her 45-year-old husband's lawyer argues that no malice was involved.
The Schaibles have pleaded no contest to third-degree murder in Brandon's death. They have seven surviving children.
"We believe in divine healing, that Jesus shed blood for our healing and that he died on the cross to break the devil's power," Herbert Schaible said in a 2013 police statement. Medicine, he said, "is against our religious beliefs."
A jury had convicted both parents of involuntary manslaughter in Kent's death, and they were put on 10 years of probation that included orders to seek medical care if any other child got sick.
After Brandon's death, an irate judge found they had violated parole.
Prosecutors have described the boys' symptoms as "eerily similar," and said they included labored breathing and a refusal to eat. Catherine Schaible's lawyer, though, said her client tried to feed Brandon during his illness and applied baby powder to keep him comfortable.
Their pastor, Nelson Clark, has said the Schaibles lost their sons because of a "spiritual lack" in their lives and insisted they would not seek medical care even if another child appeared near death.
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Now, just a few things from me:
--While the lawyer for Catherine Schiable can investigate whether she has the right to believe as she does, someone has to tell these two that the important person in this whole case isn't one of the parents, and so therefore their religious beliefs, while obviously important, isn't the #1 thing to take into consideration. The most important person is the dead 8-month old son, Brandon. So how about someone spend a little time investigating his rights, starting with his right to stay alive?
--Am I reading this right? Did the courts give the Schiables 10 years' probation after they were convicted of manslaughter for the death of their first son? They've done this before. And we're shocked that such people would do it again? Did the first judge really think that such people would change their religious beliefs simply because a judge told them to?
--Note to the Pennsylvania courts: They have seven surviving children. Key word there is "surviving." Which in this case translates to: "Their parents haven't killed them yet." They've done this twice now. They will do it again, even if you tell them not to.
--No one from the courts was going to the house to check on the eight remaining kids until Brandon died? Someone will say that there isn't enough people to check on everyone, but I'll bet someone was checking on the kids of the parents who were poor, or amongst a minority--but who hadn't already been convicted of killing one of their kids.
--Yet another example of the continued battle between scientific facts and religious beliefs in this country: pneumonia isn't the Devil. It's an infection caused by a virus or by bacteria. You can believe that Jesus can win a battle with the Devil. That's fine. But antibiotics can win a battle with pneumonia.
--Beliefs are not facts. If they were, they'd be called "facts" and not "beliefs." You can believe whatever you want. When it crosses the line in your psyche into "fact" land, you'd better have what scientists call "proof" or "provable evidence." If you don't, you have to understand that when you say something is against your beliefs, than it's just that--a belief. Not a fact.
--Note to faith-healing believers: If They exist, God and Jesus want you to save your kids. They really do.
--Did you see at the bottom of the article that their pastor says they'll do this again? Don't you think that the pastor--or even one of the Schiables--said the same thing after Kent died?
--Speaking of this pastor, can the PA law go after him now? Now that the parents themselves are in jail, how about charging this guy with being an accessory? He is wielding a gun, an obvious weapon, except it's verbal and not physical. I know it's a touchy thing because now we're talking about religious beliefs again, but--legally speaking--if Person X tells Person Y to jump off the bridge because Jesus wants him to, and then Person Y jumps off the bridge, isn't Person X culpable at all? Religion is being used like a drug here, like Ecstasy (the literalism is intentional). It is against the law to control someone using an actual drug, and then have them commit crimes for you. I mean, didn't Charles Manson do exactly that? Like this pastor, he never lifted a finger to do any of the killings himself. And I have to think that the Schiables told their pastor they were taking a wait-and-see approach with their son's pneumonia, so isn't he also culpable for that reason? So why not charge the pastor? Can someone with legal training please explain this to me?
--There's a twisted version of Munchausen Syndrome going on here. I mean this literally. Notice that the parents very clearly believe that this case is about their religious beliefs, and not really about Brandon at all. It's like this is their way of having all of the attention, of preaching about their religion. Their their their. In interviews, they keep saying "my," or "our," as in: "Medicine is against our religious beliefs." It's narcissism. Once parents like this are convicted of killing one of their kids because of their beliefs--whatever they are--can't we then at least put them in a mental health facility? Narcissism and Munchausen's can be very dangerous personality disorders--as we see here--so if there are legal issues because of religion, can we not go this route? Again, someone with legal training needs to explain this to me.
--If these parents were to say that the family dog told them to withhold medicine for Kent, wouldn't they have been in a jail or in a facility after that? I don't mean to offend by comparing Jesus to the family dog--that's not what I'm doing--but if these parents were to have said that anything else at all (the family pet, the Devil, their dishwasher, whatever) told them to withhold medicine for their children, wouldn't they already have been whisked away? Haven't scores of people done exactly this, and been carted away? Why then is this any different, from a legal perspective? These people are hearing voices just like all of the others who've said "The dog told me to..." or "The Devil told me to..." and yet they're less culpable because they say that it's Jesus speaking to them? Yet again, someone with legal training, please comment or send me an email.
Because none of this makes any sense to me at all.
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Tuesday, May 21, 2013
The Angel of Darkness by Caleb Carr
Photo: Book's cover from its Wikipedia page
Almost as quick a read as its predecessor, this one is told from the point of view of Stevie, from his cigarette shop, as he looks back on his past. The cast is all here, and a few more characters show up, including one of the all-time bad women you'll ever read about--who unfortunately reminded me of a few people I used to know, but that's a review for another day.
NYC in the late 1890s is brought to vivid life again, but with a bit more of a bittersweet tinge to the tale, as Stevie also writes about his love at the time, a drug addict / prostitute who never had a chance to go straight. The very strong theme here is the role of females in that world, and, no doubt, in this one, and what, if any, males in a male-dominated era (then and now) may have helped cause some women to kill their children. The socio-politics described are too complex to go into here, but they are not easily dismissed or ignored, and the reader may recognize some of what is described. The villainess is almost as much of a victim as the actual victims--so much so that I looked up the real-life women mentioned by the author as topics of research in his acknowledgement section. These real-life women all killed their own children, and many of their men, to such a degree that you'd have to wonder if anyone in the legal or medical communities were paying attention. One woman brought one child to the hospital, dead. Then another. Then another...until all twelve were dead. Another woman killed off her children, and literally dozens of men who came to her farm to win her favors--favors that were advertised in area newspapers. This woman was often seen digging in the middle of the night in her hog pen--and she'd had dozens of heavy trunks delivered to her property.
At any rate, this one has more than a few things in common thematically with my own WIP, including how women are treated in a male-dominated society. This novel also ends with a slow declining arc, more than a little bit after the main conflict has been resolved, just as mine does.
Anyway, great writing (except for an aboriginal hitman that didn't work for me), great historical detail, and some strong wistful nostalgia at the end that readers older than 30 should recognize, all coalesce in a novel that was quickly read and thoroughly appreciated.
Published in 1997, this has been the last in the series, and you have to wonder why. Both were tremendous bestsellers, and this second one mentions frequently that the group was involved in many other cases, both all together and, for Sara Howard, by herself, so there's plenty of other potential material to write about...and yet Caleb Carr never has. Here's to hoping he comes out with another one soon.
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